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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 7:56 am

done, on my copy cheers, do i look that old Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 8:40 am

Population of greater london is well over 7 million according to wikipedia!
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 8:46 am

cheers got that, final edit now, off to the printers

many thanks all
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PostSubject: final verson   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 8:47 am

Fish kill

Major pollution, nearly as worse as 2004, over 100,000 fish killed

As we know, last weekend, there was a majer rain full, after months of little or no rain, the system could not cope, so sewage was pumed into the thames, this happened Monday 06, hammersmith downwards,

The EA where out with bubbler boats and hydrogen peroxide equipment to put oxygen back into the water

As an angler, I find this situation rather upsetting, not because I am an angler, its because none off the other animal loving organization give a hoot about fish, as it is not a fury animal or a bird,

The RSPCA and spingwatch are not interested that 100.000 fish have just died, if it was a few birds dying on the thames there would be an uproar

It was not until Wednesday, 2 days after it happened that it was on the news, where they interviewed David Harver from T.A.C. A Voluntary organization that helps look after the lower thames, congratulations to you and T.A.C.,

What is needed is a better sewage system to be built to cope with this kind of thing, the last one was build was in 1850(ish) by Joseph Bazalgette, a great man of many talents for his time, there is one in the pipe line, but a lot of people living in London;/hammersmith and fulham area, the “RATs”, they call themselves I think, an apropete name to call themselves, who do not wont this to happen “why”, do they wont to live in human muck, drink water that has had big lumps floating in it,

Angerlers respect the land and its animal population, we spend more time by the waterside than any other section of leisure users and therefore see ourselves as the eyes and ears of the river, I cannot say that for every sport or hobby, you always get a bad apple in every box, do all dog owners pick up thire dogs waste of the ground, do boat owners always empty there waste in the prober places, or over the side when no one is looking, “NO”,

If an angler see a injured animal when he/she is fishing they whill help out, we have a number on our fishing Licence to ring,

This is nothing to do with the EA or the present government, the EA have done thire upmost to clean up, I blame thames water, we pay them to clean up our waste and drinking water, then we have a bit off rain, they, thames water,, then open a few gates, dump 1000,000s gls of waste into the thames, and “WE”, the tax payer have to pay again, to clean it up, and “they”, thames water, have saved themselfs a bit of money, so that the so called “FAT CATS” can have a bigger bonies in their pocket

Something has to be done, why should we have to pay twice for water, get the new sewage system sorted, if the “RATS” do not like it, “TUFF”, why should 100 odd rich people make 7 million people suffer, buggers believe

And that ladies and gentlemen is my say on the matter
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 8:50 am

will try and say about miny haha and next sunday walton bridge
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 11:01 am

did anyone listen to me and not fall asleep Wink
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 12:04 pm

Keith you might not be the best at spelling but your arguments are solid and do you credit. I am half way through a letter to my MP and pinching sections of this and your earlier letter are making it much easier.
Cheers, Ed
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 1:22 pm

James Page wrote:
soz m8, wasn't able to, any chance of posting up a link, so we can


i will try and find it,have to ring them
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EdRandall wrote:
Keith you might not be the best at spelling but your arguments are solid and do you credit. I am half way through a letter to my MP and pinching sections of this and your earlier letter are making it much easier.
Cheers, Ed

thats wot happens when you a monster raving loony
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 5:20 pm

Keep an eye on this link

http://www.brooklandsradio.co.uk/listenagain.asp

They're a day behind so it may appear tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 6:32 pm

nice one steve
ed, if its up to your usual standard we'll use it as a template
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PostSubject: River Arun 'sewage spill   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyThu Jun 16, 2011 9:53 pm

its not just thames water. 000s killed in west sussex.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13798001
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Quote :
Keep an eye on this link
It's there now:
http://www.brooklandsradio.co.uk/podcasts/ThamesAnglersConservancy2011-06-11.mp3
Just now listened to it, good job Keith!
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horay, im on air, did i make a fool of my self, please tell the true, I can take it, I,m a ravey loony,

ps

i did noties i cannot say my "R" proberly 🤡

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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 7:17 am

nice one keith, mucho appreciated
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PostSubject: **Tidal Fish Kill**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 7:56 am

well done keith.

sounded good you raveing loony
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Keith Collett wrote:
horay, im on air, did i make a fool of my self, please tell the true, I can take it, I,m a ravey loony,

ps

i did noties i cannot say my "R" proberly 🤡


You sounded really good Keith.

You asked for the truth so.....next time you could do with facts and figures written down in front of you, so you can answer questions more accurately....but well done you raver Wink
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 12:16 pm

This article has just been printed in the R-T-Times 17/6/2011

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I'm glad it won't happen again, and I'm glad it's a one-in-3-year event (EA spokesman at Ham Hydro meeting last night) but we know the sad reality is that it will happen again several times before the tunnel is built.

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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyFri Jun 17, 2011 4:06 pm

misinformation abounds whether hydropower, pollution, illegally moored boaters etc etc m8
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Steve Holmes wrote:
Keith Collett wrote:
horay, im on air, did i make a fool of my self, please tell the true, I can take it, I,m a ravey loony,

ps

i did noties i cannot say my "R" proberly 🤡


You sounded really good Keith.

You asked for the truth so.....next time you could do with facts and figures written down in front of you, so you can answer questions more accurately....but well done you raver Wink

nice one Steve, Smile I ask for the truth, but I do have a bit of a alliby, the radio presenter vered off the paper i gave him so had to think on my feet a bit :face:

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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 18, 2011 5:28 pm

Just been reading up on the Arun fish kill.

Seems likley that is was a Southern Water possibly down a tributary but cant be sure.


http://www.wscountytimes.co.uk/news/local/video_sewage_wreaks_havoc_on_the_river_arun_hundreds_of_fish_killed_1_2786582

I know that bit of river as worked very close by for a few years, real shame



Link to Southern Waters outflows and overflows (opens an excel doc, tabbed pages)

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CF4QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ofwat.gov.uk%2Fcontent%3Fid%3D220c32ea-0f4c-11df-8672-b3f500e43277&rct=j&q=cso%27s%20on%20the%20river%20arun&tbs=ctr%3AcountryUK%7CcountryGB&ei=ZtL8TbSDC4rm-ga8zrG7Aw&usg=AFQjCNEVAqjuJv4ovp_qEoS6MsOjm1d7fw&cad=rja




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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyMon Jun 20, 2011 6:33 pm

Just picked this up from the EA website, news release today about a Central London Thames fish kil. We are not sure if it is historical or when there was an overflow on Saturday.

The link sadly does not work so have put in a call.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/news/default.aspx?

Certainly no reports in, anyone see or hear anything, please let us know on here.

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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyMon Jun 27, 2011 4:05 pm

Just seen that there is 2inches of rain due tonight. Only a small tide, high at Richmond 11.30 pm, so the run off will be quick.



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two or more dogs left in a car died yesterday, yes its is sad, its on national TV, BBC, dogs trust and animals lovers up in arms, 2 weeks ago 100,000 fish died, 20secs on TV, water was polluted, I say no more, just seen papers, its front page news
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PostSubject: Re: **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011**   **Tidal Fish Kill June 2011** - Page 5 EmptyTue Jun 28, 2011 3:32 pm

Am fishing the tidal tonight in the Kew/Chiswick area. Seen at low tide sand gullies that look perfect for flounder on the incoming tide.

Will be interesting to see what fish activity there is....if any...seeing as it's in the middle of the fish kill zone. But if all the small fish were killed that must leave the big ones, right? Smile

2 rods, each with a 2 hook paternoster with maggots. That's 4 hooks with maggots - all flavoured to flounder's diet - shrimp, crab, mussel and worm.

I've never expected a fishless session more in my life Razz but nothing ventured nothing gained and I want a Thames flounder.

Any foolhardy idiot want to skip a night with the TV you are welcome to join me.
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